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Imperator_Romulus
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Imperator_Romulus


Male Number of posts : 2273
Age : 45
Localisation : Asheville, North Carolina
Registration date : 2007-02-26

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PostSubject: Alliance in Peril?   Alliance in Peril? EmptySat Apr 23, 2011 9:05 pm

[19:47] {CA}Soulfly: hey mate
[19:47] {CA}Soulfly: whats going on
[19:48] {CA}Soulfly: members are disapointed
[19:48] {CA}Soulfly: with this alliance
[19:49] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: hey soul
[19:49] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: really what about?
[19:50] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: we seem to be doing well
[19:50] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: you there?
[19:50] {CA}Soulfly: grails and imp
[19:50] {CA}Soulfly: seem to be doing nothing
[19:50] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: hmm
[19:50] {CA}Soulfly: its a team effort
[19:51] {CA}Soulfly: even i thought thT
[19:51] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: yeah im on everyday
[19:51] {CA}Soulfly: and i killed laptop weeks ago
[19:51] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: not one CA has talked to me
[19:51] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: unless i talk to them
[19:51] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: i even post on your forum
[19:51] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: we own the sea becouse of imps
[19:52] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: joe and i play everyday
[19:52] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: coach
[19:52] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: im disappointed in some imps too, thought we'd be on more
[19:52] {CA}Soulfly: hmm
[19:52] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: and just becouse i dont play 1on1 dont think i dont play
[19:52] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: we do alot of work
[19:53] {CA}Soulfly: well the idea of the the alliance group
[19:53] {CA}Soulfly: hasnt worked so far
[19:53] {CA}Soulfly: its mostly CA
[19:53] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: we advanced 2of last 3
[19:53] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: hmm
[19:53] {CA}Soulfly: it was when i was active
[19:54] {CA}Soulfly: and still same i was told
[19:54] {CA}Soulfly: i killed karens laptop
[19:54] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: you mean only ca is playing caln games?
[19:54] {CA}Soulfly: so cant play
[19:54] {CA}Soulfly: emm
[19:54] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: bucouse thats not the case
[19:54] {CA}Soulfly: most of the results effort
[19:54] {CA}Soulfly: is CA
[19:54] {CA}Soulfly: though
[19:55] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: i dissagree but i could be wrong
[19:55] {CA}Soulfly: i wont exclude you
[19:55] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: but its true you have more active members
[19:55] {CA}Soulfly: aprat from you
[19:55] {CA}Soulfly: apart
[19:55] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: we own the sea becouse of Joe
[19:55] {CA}Soulfly: well
[19:55] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: and thats half our territory
[19:56] {CA}Soulfly: theres talk of a ca only clan
[19:56] {CA}Soulfly: but
[19:56] {CA}Soulfly: not yet
[19:56] {CA}Soulfly: we have agreed to give it time
[19:56] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: well for my own part i dont like to 1on1, id reather try a campign in that case
[19:57] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: but i always say to ask for a game and ill join
[19:57] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: and i only get invite from grails or imps
[19:58] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: i think you guys would rather play with CA
[19:58] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: which is completely understandable
[19:58] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: wish you would fix your computer Razz
[20:00] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: you there?
[20:01] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: i posted twice about all three clans getting togeather for games and strat sessions
[20:01] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: no responce...
[20:06] {CA}Soulfly: lol
[20:06] {CA}Soulfly: sorry
[20:06] {CA}Soulfly: i killed karens laptop
[20:06] {CA}Soulfly: so i now need to win lotto
[20:06] {CA}Soulfly: lol
[20:06] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: heehee
[20:06] {CA}Soulfly: i love stw2
[20:07] {CA}Soulfly: gutted i cant play
[20:07] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: yeah
[20:07] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: im getting a new comp next month
[20:07] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: this ones been crashing alot on me
[20:08] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: ive been shying away from online becouse of that last few days
[20:08] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: looking at our clan 1on1 list
[20:09] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: 2 of top 5 are CA
[20:09] {CA}Soulfly: lol
[20:09] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: one of those is you Smile
[20:09] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: and 3 are grails
[20:09] {CA}Soulfly: ive not been on for ages
[20:09] {CA}Soulfly: send pc to me:)
[20:09] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: your ranked 1637
[20:09] {CA}Soulfly: i dont need hdd
[20:09] {CA}Soulfly: wow
[20:09] {CA}Soulfly: i was in top 100
[20:09] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: mark is at top
[20:10] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: hes at 228
[20:10] {CA}Soulfly: gutted
[20:10] {CA}Soulfly: saspi and sahin?
[20:10] {CA}Soulfly: saspi was in top 5
[20:10] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: then katsu at 950
[20:10] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: then you
[20:10] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: then Ybanez at 1671
[20:10] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: then gonesurfing at 1893
[20:10] {CA}Soulfly: hmm it changes alot
[20:10] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: then sparta
[20:11] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: then Joe
[20:11] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: the Sahin
[20:11] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: then saspi
[20:11] {CA}Soulfly: so
[20:11] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: then eve
[20:11] {CA}Soulfly: its like wic
[20:11] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: id say its about even in alliance
[20:11] {CA}Soulfly: depends on how active
[20:11] {CA}Soulfly: are you going on games won?
[20:12] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: nah thats just rankings
[20:12] {CA}Soulfly: ahh
[20:12] {CA}Soulfly: well
[20:12] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: let me see
[20:12] {CA}Soulfly: thats not much
[20:12] {CA}Soulfly: depends on how much they are on each day
[20:12] {CA}Soulfly: saspi was in top 5
[20:12] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: yeah
[20:12] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: let me do some math
[20:12] {CA}Soulfly: i have to go mate
[20:13] {CA}Soulfly: sorry
[20:13] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: ok man np
[20:13] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: cya later
[20:13] {CA}Soulfly: hopefuuly we can keep alliance
[20:13] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: i hope so
[20:13] {CA}Soulfly: later mate
[20:13] }|{Imperator_Romulus}|{: bye
[20:13] {CA}Soulfly: allaince group* allaince will always be there
[20:13] {CA}Soulfly: later


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Imperator_Romulus
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Localisation : Asheville, North Carolina
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PostSubject: Re: Alliance in Peril?   Alliance in Peril? EmptySat Apr 23, 2011 9:07 pm

A completely civil discussion. I definately see his point. If you guys are going to play Shogun I hope its sooner rather then later. Rolling Eyes
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Imperator_Romulus
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PostSubject: Re: Alliance in Peril?   Alliance in Peril? EmptySat Apr 23, 2011 9:57 pm

I posted this at CA:

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:53 amPost subject: Tetsu-Fu Stats
I know you guys seem to have more active members atm, but I'm sure you all know how much activity fluctuates depending on whats going on in our lives. Fear not, our younger members will have Shogun soon and our "older" members will hopefully be more active in the future. I'll try to light a fire under their ass though. I personally wont be on as much as I'd like untill I get my a new computer in a few weeks.

Anyway, I was looking at Tensu-Fu stats and got to thinking. Did some math:

This is only based on total wins(1on1, 2on2, 3on3 land and 1on1 and 2on2 naval)

Grailknights
385 total wins

Imperators
487 total wins

CA
767 total wins

Thats a total of 1639 wins, however we only have 1465 RANKED wins. So not all of those wins are contibuting, someone is doing alot of battlelist games that DO NOT COUNT toward the clan wars.

Ok now lets see that in % Three clans so average would be 33.3% (still based on overall wins)

Grailknights
23.5% -9.8% from average

Imperators
29.7% -3.6% from average

CA
46.7% +13.4 % from average


I know it seems like CA is doing all the heavy lifting at times but I truely feel that we've progressed 2 of the last 3 clan wars as team. We're tring to do our part, for instance, we own the sea's (which are most of our territories atm) becouse of Grails and Imp's efforts. Believe it or not, a few of us stay up late nights just to keep us in 2nd place.

I'd like to play more games with CA but becouse of differant time zones and the fact that 2on2's about the biggest game we can find in clan battles it just hasnt happened yet.

Please bare with us, we are stronger together then apart! Just thought that had to be said.

Message me if your ever in need of a parter.

HAIL CA!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Alliance in Peril?   Alliance in Peril? EmptySun May 01, 2011 9:50 am

I have an opinion on this topic after thinking about it for a week. CA needs to get over their attitude for a few reasons:

1) Team spirit. If they have more wins, so what? Imagine if Walter Payton, Babe Ruth, or Michael Jordan had that attitude? Someone who is talented and "carries the team" does so without looking down at their teammates if they are "great". Of the above mentioned, Payton played on a perenially losing team for what must have seemed to him to be an eternity. He was in the NFL for almost a decade before the Bears won a Super Bowl, yet he never complained about his team.

2) The game has not been out that long. Many people in our alliance have either just started playing (myself for instance) or have not played at all in mp yet. Just because they got productive first doesn't mean they should take "their ball and go home" like it appears. I have played now for about a month and have almost as many wins as their top players. When these complaints were aired, I was just getting steady on my shogun feet.

3) Competitiveness. Even with the weaker allies playing as they were, Tetsu-fu was competitive. Without CA playing, we are competitve. If they were playing in the last two maps, we clearly would have beat Virus.

4) Attitude. When these complaints were aired, I don't think anyone in Imperators had an attitude of spitefulness that seems to be exhibited by CA. Their lack of play recently seems to be in retaliation for a percieved lack of participation with us.

I am hoping CA will continue to be part of our alliance. I also think we need to work on another clan to join us. Right now we are simply outnumbered.


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Imperator_Boru
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Registration date : 2006-10-22

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance in Peril?   Alliance in Peril? EmptySun May 01, 2011 10:27 am

you gave a way better response than I could have Josephus, Im glad you did..well said man. We do need more players if we want to challenge these giant clans, especialy as we get into the higher tiers.
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PostSubject: Re: Alliance in Peril?   Alliance in Peril? EmptySun May 01, 2011 11:58 am

Thanks Boru. The other thing that frustrates me is Virus and their chicken shit alliances on the clan map. It seems they have done it again with clan bear hug. Virus is very weak on the bear hug front but bear hug is not attacking them. My strategy for today will be winning the seas. This is a bit difficult for me because my comp crashes during sea fights for some reason. I win the seas, we win the map. It would be nice if we had several people fighting on land to hold what we do have there. Virus will steam roll us today if we do not have a strong presence. I predict the loss of 5 or 6 land provs to them if we don't fight them hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Alliance in Peril?   Alliance in Peril? EmptySun May 01, 2011 7:57 pm

Very well said Joe. I think it will work itself out. I know CA is having a rough time atm, they lost a few members recently and Soulfly cant play Shogun2 anymore untill he gets a new computer. Dont hold it against them just yet.

I wouldnt mind approching RTK to join Tetsu-Fu. I think they're happy on their own though, they probably woudnt join.

However before we ask a clan to join we would have to make sure the Grails and CA were ok with it first.
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