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PostSubject: ...i have some tactical questions   Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:03 am

...when attacking with cav, should i let them do a normal lance charge and then alt-attack after engaged or should i just alt-attack on the initial charge? wouldn't the latter eliminate the charge-shock? or...would an 'alt-charge' include the lances, and then an automatic assault of secondaries (maces,swords,etc.)

...when using pikes, is it better to 'march' the individual pike units to and through an enemy, or to attack? i saw a guy on you-tube (not PoM, lol) micro (quite skillfully) by just marching his phalanx units through each target enemy unit.
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:27 am

as far as the cav charges I use alt attack right away, they will use there spear 1st anyways then draw the secondary weapon.

When stationary pikes are guard mode are more effective but if you want to bring the fight to them many players turn guard mode off and march towards there enemy. The only downside to this is if the pikes get too far into the enemy they tend to draw there secondary weapons on occasion and when they do that they are not so effective. I know on medieval total war 2 I always place them "off guard mode" for attacking. I would go ahead and run some unit test with another imperator and have them get 2 units and you get 2 units and try both methods on the exact same unit/stance.

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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:40 pm

**salutes* thanx, consul. that alt-attack thing was drivin me nuts. Smile I have been taking pikes off guard mode only because after a unit defeats an an enemy unit they seem to not attack other engaged units even if said enemy is right on top of them. But, u are absolutely right, and a lone pike unit far from formation is a tasty target Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:49 pm

Everything Boru said is correct. Alt attack on the initial charge because they will use the lance first anyway and receive the charge bonus, and then pull their secondary weapon and use it. (Most secondary weapons have the AP stat *armor piercing* and will cut enemy defense in half).

As for pikes, what Boru said is also correct. however, I will also add that the pike length makes a HUGE difference. I cant exactly what it is but I'll look for it and when I find it I will tell you what to do. (Short pikes vs long pikes vs other infantry.)
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:23 am

...thnx Wolf Smile u da man bro Smile
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:17 am

Haha, the famous Macedonian sarissa never dissapoints...

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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:50 am

From what I remember if you have shorter pikes it is better to attack. If you have the larger pikes it is better to not move. Also, take longer pikes off of guard mode.
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:59 am


..hey guys, i jus had a dispute over some cwb rules and i was wonderin if anyone could give me a definitive answer?i was always under the impression that "HA" , horse archers are all missile cav units; e.g. jav cav, chariot archers, cataphract archers etc. . am i wrong? is it only cavalry that use bows and arrows?
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:02 am

Ive seen this argument before and have always felt it should apply to all ranged units, but I think javalins are not included in those old rules. I think they have remade cwb/ clan war belt forums few times but here is a link for Q/A http://www.clanwarbelt.com/

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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:40 pm

Yeah HA in cwb are only the horse archers. The jav throwers dont count. Just as peltasts and headhurlers arnt archers. Also HA dont count toward the archer limit, only the cav limit.

Sorry I missed you the other night cohort, my xfire was being wierd.

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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:06 pm



..Wow consul, i cant believe i just saw this! you just shook my very "CWBeing" to the ground. Thank you sooo much. i knew about the headhurlers but thats it! Man i feel like i got vertigo or sumthn LOLOL. damn, i guess i been gettn lucky follown the rules. also, could you explain the exact TWPL rules for me. thanks brother Smile
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:01 am

hehe twpl is:

Max 6 cav
Max 6 Archers
Max 2 Horse Archers (count as both Cav and Archers cheers )
Max 2 Berserkers
No Art
No Eles

Also, Jav cav, Peltast, and Head Hurlers do not count as archers
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:22 am

What Alex said. Wink

I like twpl over cwb.

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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:30 pm

Thought it also included max 6 same ? 66622NN But I could totaly be wrong Very Happy I like twpl also.

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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:54 am



..that was gona be my question. i thought max 6 same too.
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:20 pm

Ah yes, silly me, it is max 6 same. That is just kind of stuck in my mind that I dont even think about it.
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:29 am

ok I have another question. what exactly is steam? is it like xfire? is it better? should I get it? also. any of you guys pla world of tanks? look me up iif so. name:cohort13...lol,go figure huh
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:45 pm

Yes you should get steam ! Steam is awesome. It can do anything xfire can and more. When you instal games with steam they stay with steam. So when I got new pc I i could log into steam and download all my games with steam, I didnt need the disk to instal after steam had them.

Download here- http://store.steampowered.com/about/
Check it out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_(software)

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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:52 am

...ok, problem. when I try to use my cd key to register rome, it sez invalid. I looked aroun online and got no definitive answers. Its not a huge deal, just that I want ed to download alexander from steam and they say I don't own the necessary (rome) game needed. does anybody know this code?
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PostSubject: Re: ...i have some tactical questions   Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:54 am

LOL oops. that was me. thought I was logged in XD
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